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Dealing in Desire

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This captivating ethnography explores Vietnam’s sex industry as the country ascends the global and regional stage Over the course of five years author Kimberly Kay Hoang worked at four exclusive Saigon hostess bars catering to diverse clientele wealthy local Vietnamese and Asian businessmen Viet Kieus ethnic Vietnamese living abroad Western businessmen and Western budget tourists Dealing in Desire takes an in de. This book shows that sex workers who work in hostess bars bars with sex workers in Vietnam sometimes see their work as a better option than alternative jobs—working in factories as maids or in other 'dead end' jobs It also shows different types of men who patronize in a uite patronizing way 4 types of hostess bars in Vietnam The four types she examines are hostess bars that cater to 1 local wealthy Vietnamese businessmen and Asian investors; 2 Vietnamese men who live outside of Vietnam and who return to visit family to do business or for other reasons; 3 wealthy non Vietnamese Western businessmen cycling through Vietnam or living there permanently; 4 less wealthy Western men who are able to use their foreign currency to live comfortably in Vietnam while accessing the sex industry most of whom appear to be 50 years old or older Hoang did extensive participant observation fieldwork in one bar for each of these categoriesThe methodological appendix is very interesting—it shows how a researcher can fall into researching something somewhat accidentally and shows the intricacies and struggles of participant observation work I think the main take away that Hoang wants this book to provide is that the sex workers are often only inconvenienced by Westerners' attempts to save them At least for the sample of sex workers Hoang observed they do not feel coerced into sex work and find that it has many benefits like not having to work 12 hours a day in an uncomfortable and demeaning factory demeaning in the sense that the bosses are often demeaning and sometimes even coerce employees into sex work in the factory I think it does accomplish this objective although there are also hints that the sex workers sometimes feel frustrated with the work eg p143 But the point still stands that this frustration is probably not as severe as if they worked in one of the other jobs available to themI also appreciated the short history of the sex industry in Vietnam chapter 1 which I did not know before reading the book So I now have a great deal data about what it felt like to be a sex worker in the hostess bars where Hoang worked which does lead to better understanding of the sex industry in Vietnam and perhaps elsewhereI would have appreciated a section in the methodological appendix or the introduction that gave reasons for using choice niche markets ascendancy etc as the analytic framework for this data This critiue extends beyond this book though I think that a section of the introduction or even a second theoretical appendix is something missing from many ethnographies Many ethnographies include methodological appendices where the data collection details are provided as this book does But I would also appreciate details of how the author came to use their particular analytic framework—was this a series of carefully thought through reasoned criteria laden choices or did the author fall into using the theory because of a mentor a chance encounter with a theoeretical book etc I think either of those two approaches the reasoned choice approach and the 'falling into theory' approach are acceptable and a combination of them is probably also possible But what I did not see in this book was an explicit reference to either of these standards for describing how the analytical framework came to be used So what justifies the use of the particular analytic framework used in this particular study Or How did the author fall into using the particular analytic framework Explicit reference to one of these or a combination of them would avoid reifying the concepts andor theory used in the work

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L investors For Viet Kieus and Westerners who bring remittances into the local economy personal relationships with local sex workers reinforce their ideas of Asia’s rise and Western decline while simultaneously bolstering their diminished masculinity Dealing in Desire illuminates Ho Chi Minh City’s sex industry as not just a microcosm of the global economy but a critical space where dreams and deals are traded. Fascinating although all the workers cater to the I assume higher end of the market Not what I was expecting

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10 thoughts on “Dealing in Desire

  1. says:

    This book shows that sex workers who work in hostess bars bars with sex workers in Vietnam sometimes see their work as a better option than alternative jobs—working in factories as maids or in other 'dead end' jobs It also shows different types of men who patronize in a uite patronizing way 4 types of hostess bars in Vietnam The four types she examines are hostess bars that cater to 1 local wealthy Vietnamese businessmen and Asian investors; 2 Vietnamese men who live outside of Vietnam and who return to visit family to do business or for other reasons; 3 wealthy non Vietnamese Western businessmen cycling through Vietnam or living there permanently; 4 less wealthy Western men who are able to use their foreign currency to live comfortably in Vietnam while accessing the sex industry most of whom appear to be 50 years old or older Hoang did extensive participant observation fieldwork in one bar for each of these categoriesThe methodological appendix is very interesting—it shows how a researcher can fall into researching something somewhat accidentally and shows the intricacies and struggles of participant observation work I think the main take away that Hoang wants this book to provide is that the sex workers are often only inconvenienced by Westerners' attempts to save them At least for the sample of sex workers Hoang observed they do not feel coerced into sex work and find that it has many benefits like not having to work 12 hours a day in an uncomfortable and demeaning factory demeaning in the sense that the bosses are often demeaning and sometimes even coerce employees into sex work in the factory I think it does accomplish this objective although there are also hints that the sex workers sometimes feel frustrated with the work eg p143 But the point still stands that this frustration is probably not as severe as if they worked in one of the other jobs available to themI also appreciated the short history of the sex industry in Vietnam chapter 1 which I did not know before reading the book So I now have a great deal data about what it felt like to be a sex worker in the hostess bars where Hoang worked which does lead to better understanding of the sex industry in Vietnam and perhaps elsewhereI would have appreciated a section in the methodological appendix or the introduction that gave reasons for using choice niche markets ascendancy etc as the analytic framework for this data This critiue extends beyond this book though I think that a section of the introduction or even a second theoretical appendix is something missing from many ethnographies Many ethnographies include methodological appendices where the data collection details are provided as this book does But I would also appreciate details of how the author came to use their particular analytic framework—was this a series of carefully thought through reasoned criteria laden choices or did the author fall into using the theory because of a mentor a chance encounter with a theoeretical book etc? I think either of those two approaches the reasoned choice approach and the 'falling into theory' approach are acceptable and a combination of them is probably also possible But what I did not see in this book was an explicit reference to either of these standards for describing how the analytical framework came to be used So what justifies the use of the particular analytic framework used in this particular study? Or How did the author fall into using the particular analytic framework? Explicit reference to one of these or a combination of them would avoid reifying the concepts andor theory used in the work


  2. says:

    This is one of the most thoughtful pieces of social science research I've ever read Deconstructs inaccurate perceptions of sex work in HCMC and offers a new specific framework in its stead by looking at how performances of gender and sexuality are presented in four client populations Vietnamese businessmen Viet Kieu members of the Vietnamese diaspora returning to the country Western businessmen and Western budget travelers This summary does the work little justice Anyone interested in gender dynamics in EastSoutheast countries should definitely read this book


  3. says:

    I read this book as a course assignment and found it fascinating I read the entire book in one sitting It discusses the inner workings of sex work in Vietnam The researcher spent years working close toin the industry to gain the trust and relationships for important information and interviews She analyzed four separate niche sex worker markets in one city Wow I am still in awe of how interesting and well written this book was


  4. says:

    This book is one of the best examples of intersectionality applied to empirical sociological work that I've ever read As a graduate student reading this book I have so much respect for the incredible dedication to her fieldwork that the author had Don't skip her excellent appendix her discussions of the embodied cost of ethnography are fascinating but very sad Her work on the embodied femininities of the 4 groups of women are so rich and in depth She says she's filling a gap this literature by also focusing on the male clients but in some ways I feel like she flattened the men And she definitely has some data she could have used to enrich her analysis of the men In the appendix she reveals that she worked as a consultant for some of the extremely powerful Vietnamese businessmen spending time in their company offices going out to dinners with them and even going to a golf resort I'm looking forward to her new book project which seems like it will focus on how these competing masculinities shaped by race nation class are constructed


  5. says:

    A fascinating easy to read ethnography that explores the lives of sex workers in Ho Chi Min City Hoang explores four different bars with different clienteles contrasting how capital race and gender interact


  6. says:

    Wow the best book I’ve read for my Urban Ethnography of Asia class so far The whole thing had me constantly stopping to reflect The author took uite the sacrifices for ethnography


  7. says:

    Insightful ethnography of sex work in Vietnam


  8. says:

    very good ,you need undersand the normal knowledge!!


  9. says:

    Fascinating although all the workers cater to the I assume higher end of the market Not what I was expecting


  10. says:

    Stellar socio economic analysis that elegantly ties together theories and realities of sex industry in Vietnam


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